Im just pulling for Colt to make some improvements. 15 18 comments You know, before the turn of the last century. What I saw was a whole lot of people referring to the same malfunctioning guns over and over again. The worst shooting group was also an Armscor 158 gr FMJ round. The key for them is to make it consistently, and to make enough of them to satisfy the market demand. There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. I was ready to be angry. Colt's Manufacturing Company - firearms, handguns, pistols, rifles, revolvers. Still, I tried a different method, and measured the end-shake at just over .002. 1 selling revolver among FFLs using the services of GunBroker.com in 2020. Same here. We are back to the famed bank-vault lockup of old. Click here to view our other Live Auctions! But it seems a lot like there are more people claiming that their Colt is bad than the number of guns that Colt actually sold. While Colt limited some options for the new model, they more than made up for it with the improvements. The new Python is a better gun. Alas, all is not sweetness and light. Although I find the 4.25 more practical, theres no denying the perfect balance and fast shooting of the 6 version. The 2020 Python features modern stainless steel alloys and a re . Victim blame all you want (like they didnt release the trigger all the way in this review), this release is a mess and the problems were (are?) Definitely the most in-depth complete review Ive seen so far on the new gun. Theyre pushing as fast as they can to get that cylinder rotating again, with no loss in accuracy. Including inflation (and depending +/- on the decade), the price today is comparable to the Python of yesteryear. 5.1 oz. The consistent and excellent result of all of the guns put a gun-nerd grin on my face. Width: 1.55 in. When I reviewed the new Colt King Cobra, I noted some concern over the cylinder end-shake, which measured at .003. Some were of significant value. For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." kinks have been revealed and fixed. The Python has never been an inexpensive weapon. He also very generously allowed me to photograph, measure, and generally play with the more than a dozen varied original model Pythons he owned. And no, the Cobra and Kimg Cobra are not that gun. Good call Colt, good call. I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. Finally, our impatience was rewarded when, earlier this year, Colt released the 6 and 4.25 Pythons. But other than that there dont seem to be any big noticeable changes. They would continue to make the 6 Python, in some number, all the way to 2006. After the initial release of the Pythons, a few reviewers pointed out some serious reliability issues with the Pythons they received from Colt. Nothing jarred loose. This could be a nice money-maker for them, and they need that right now. Rosin can be made from many types of starting materials, including flower, kief and bubble hash either dried or fresh frozen. The original Pythons were expensive and genuinely premium pieces, this is just overpriced average (and thats assuming they really have fixed the reliability issues). To be clear, they said I needed to realize this guns(New Pythons) are 100% assembly lined manufactured, they are not tested, have no critical inspections, I would get they next one off the line with no testing or inspection and they would not replace or warranty the gun from there on out. For those particularly interested, the cylinder throats measured at .358 on a minus pin gauge set and the major bore diameter was dead on at .357. The bullet has long left the barrel by the time your finger is moving out. Pythons produced from 1955 to 1969 have no letter in the serial number and are the most desirable to collectors. In the above, Justin Baldini, Colt's Director of Marketing,. Carried S&W N and K frames for many years as a Peace Officer, but always kinda wanted a Python. The new models mainspring is a departure, but not a huge one. The question that everyone will ask is, Does the new Python live up to the name? Yes. Ill read a few more reviews and decide if that government check should go to Colt. It just feels like the trigger wants to be pulled, like the gun wants to be shot. So it doesnt bother me. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. Oh, and the Official Police? When I look at those Pythons or say something like a Colt Walker I see a freakin canon. posted on February 24, 2020. During this review, I shot the guns in the rain and I shot them in weird Texas 85-degree winter muggy heat. The Python grips never fit my hand right, and Ive never seen a Colt yet that could hold a candle to a S&W as far as triggers go. Building on Colt's Snake Gun legacy, the legendary double-action revolver returns in stainless steel in 4.25" and 6" barrel lengths. Several other rounds, like the Barnes 140 gr .357 Magnum XPB round scored under 1 as well. The enthusiasm was so high that eager buyers joined a Colt Python waiting list or even paid a premium to get the desirable revolver early. What you are describing sounds like the exact same defect that I had on a Rossi break-action rifle. Please keep us informed like this. After all, it was decades before Colt released a stainless version of the originals. Height: 5.5 in. Boy, I dont know. Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. This is especially true of the 6 model. Once the buying fever dies down Id like to buy one of those 6 inch models. You seem a little giddy in your review. Listen folks, the name of the alloy is stainless not stainnone. for all of those who have to have it now folks to buy them, so they You have to do all the polishing and cleaning you would on steel, and then your fun starts. On both the 6 and 4.25 guns, the Armscor 158 gr FMJ in .38 SPL shot the best. The single action trigger on that gun measured at 4lbs 8.2oz and the double action measured at 9lb 2.7oz. It appears the sights are interchangeable, although obviously they are at different heights. Not my thing or budget but fwiw American Rifleman gave it a good review too. I am looking forward to seeing more posts by you as soon as possible! Different Colt catalogs throughout the decades described them as there to reduce weight or to dissipate heat. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Fend of a 10 pack of starving Wuhan flu zombies ? H&G #43 is a 160 grain. The Python had a $125 MSRP (the same as the Single Action Army). The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. When I get my government check, Ill spend it on a Python. Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. Colt's Manufacturing Company LLC Colt Speaks Justin Baldini,. I find it on the castellated nuts on ARs. Note the last 4 words of the review. That ended up as a bonus to you, the reader. Colt Python 2020 Review: The Greatest Revolver of All Time? I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. You have to know how to shoot the Colt and it isnt for everyone. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. Ive only had it to the range once. Which is it? Definitely nice to see the wheel gun aficionados get a gun that actually justifies their love of the system. Colt advertises the trigger as falling between 7 and 9 and half pounds. I find that lack of specificity disappointing, especially since Colt also touts that the new trigger has a more consistent weight and feel. None of us were experiencing any issues at all. Try to keep up with the conversation. Maybe Colt will offer the blue from their custom shop? I owned a 6 inch blue and 4 inch nickle and willfully parted with both. Pushing is a far more natural action. Heres a corrosive agent (ie, blueing salts) you couuld use for the job: https://du-lite.com/shop/du-lite-3-0-salts/. I have a Galco Summer Comfort and a DeSantis Thumb Break Scabbard for my Ruger GP100 4.2. Wood 2 piece grip. How deep have we fallen?! *CONSECUTIVE SERIAL NUMBER SET*. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. And a great shooter. They were, and are still, fast to draw, fast to fire, and with a competent marksman, sure to strike the intended target. Colt didnt screw it up. It deserves all the hype created by its release. Now, if Colt would make the Anaconda 2021, that would just be the bees knees, wouldnt it? Wow. Of the guns Ive looked at, none of them have it. S&W 686 + with that awesome SA trigger by smith and wesson6 3 (7 shot .357) and still only 800 dollarsguess Im just a broke ass Florida Kracker. Weight: 46 oz. Double action. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus. Gonna have nightmares.;). By Bob Campbell Published on February 12, 2020 in Firearms Recently, a friend remarked that the new Colt Python, at $1,399 MSRP, could not be as good as the older Pythons. Nice colt wheelies thanks for the good article. These are some of the most highly-prized guns for collectors. Yeah, done it. Im one of the lucky ones with an original blued piece. With the ease of mounting a scope on the rib, and the precision the gun has proven capable of, the potential of these guns to be outstanding for closer range deer and farther range varmint hunting is excellent. I have to say I was surprised to see Colt bringing the Python back. Its not and never was a safe queen. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. This is a stout and very capable load, with muzzle velocities in the 6 gun over 1,200fps. Hey, Nanking Nancy, lookee what I got! Of all the things that should have been an absolute gimme for them, they couldnt even get the profile right. The FIRST RULE of buying anything new (especially guns) is to wait I believe Colt also did some internal work around the hand on the new Pythons fix, muzzle work too. With this Python 2020 effort, thoughthis is a good sign from the company. Upon thinking about it, I might just get one of these this summer, just to have a gun that can handle full-power .357s. If you take a look at the King Cobra review, youll know just what the trigger mechanism is on the new Python. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. Quality control now is heavily in the engineering and proactive assembly staging. Both guns were (and are) lasers and were an absolute joy to shoot. It also exhibits the same lack of stack as the King Cobra. Got an RMA today and the gun is in Fedex custody. Tactically- or in the field- it wont do anything a Ruger GP100 wont do But there is something about a Python. Last handgun a man would ever need, anywhere, and look like it belonged on the hip of a Canadian Mounted Patrolman. Semi Autos are cheap, practical and suitable. I find it on muzzle brakes. Although Colt has yet to grace us with a blued version of the Python, they have released two separate barrel lengths, 6 and 4.25. Offered in two barrel lengths, in 2020 Colt has given the world a 6" and a 4.25" barrel. A stainless GP100 is one of the guns that I just cant seem to keep. Instead, they went with a transfer bar system. No contest between a crafted steel revolver and a gun popped out of a mold. I do wish they would bring back a lithe 38 Special like the Police Positive. The Colt Python featured a fully adjustable white-outline Accro rear sight and a 1/8-inch front ramp with red inset. Outstanding value. Capacity: 6 rds. At the time published MSRP was $505. Should it be there on a top shelf gun? Although the 6 model was also described as a service weapon from the earliest catalogs, the 4 model would be described in advertisements as the Police Python when it was released in 1961. Excellent quality, great 178 grain bullet. Some of the time, I have to take a propane torch to parts to get them to come apart (eg, red Loctite). I now have a varied collection of plastic autos, steel autos, and revolvers and Im thinking I really need to get a Colt. Once the trigger is released, the trigger will rotate back to its at rest position, pulling the transfer bar down from behind the firing pin, leaving a gap between the firing pin and hammer. My only gripe is a personal styling preference: I dont like full underlugs that extend all the way to the very tip/end of the barrel (muzzle). I never had any trigger hang-ups. And now the firing ping pushes far enough forward to strike primers with the requisite force and distance to detonate primers reliably. Folks who buy this will buy Guncrafter 1911 pistols and the SIG P210. ( 31 customer reviews) Sold: 18. The Keefe Report: Colt Addresses Python Problems. The downside of blueing stainless is that you have to fiddle with it. On all of the guns I shot, the windage screw moves very easily. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks I really enjoyed this review. Different processes of collecting trichomes and applying pressure have been used for thousands of years, however, we are only now refining these processes into pure, clean dabbable products. We are of accord. Very through. Colt-PY300168. $ 1,399.00. That concerned me because, if it was an old model Cobra, that would be the maximum end-shake we want to see from the factory. If you dont own revolvers you have a serious hole in your handgun battery. The Colt Python has retained its popularity even after remaining out of production for decades. Colt says that if you have a problem with your Python, call them and they will send you a pre-paid shipping label. Grouping straight out of the box is excellent as expected. COLT MAKE THIS ONE AGAIN. As of this writing, Colt says they have produced about 5,000 Pythons and they are split about evenly in barrel lengths. Is it better than spending hours on the phone? In double action, the lowest trigger pull of either gun was 8 lbs. If you mentioned it I missed it, but there is a difference in the frame. With the crappy rollout, I decided to get a Super Redhawk instead..now if only I could find somewhere to shoot. Ive also been upset front when they disappointed me, like with the King Cobra, although I have certainly warmed up to that gun. Of course, we are all looking forward to the Royal Blue like the one above. Do you have one to recommend or a particular bullet you like? Frame Material: Stainless Steel A shamelessly pro-Colt and Python review. You mentioned the difference in the actions. Their recent record indicates they may actually be interested in people who shoot for fun as well as defense. are the ones to suffer through the surprises THEN buy it after the I tested the new Python next to the original Python. Dear colt, 2.5 round butt, PVD black and you can have my $1499 , https://www.gunbroker.com/item/865604298 This Gun. I second the It was addressed in the article comment. 5 1/2 barrel. But ultimately, results matter most. Colt Pythons manufactured between 1955 and 1969 also feature numeral-based serial numbers. I prefer a S&W .44 magnum. I do remember being annoyed waiting, but I cant remember how long it took. When you say surface, do you mean the finish, or the material, or the physical structure of it? Spent two hours on hold with Colt before I got a living person on the line and they promised an RMA that never came. How does the new Python affect the value of the old Pythons? This releases the front sight, which can then be replaced with a different front sight. Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. I am more sad than angry over the outcome. The 178 is classic Elmer Keith. But Im happy with it. A few years back it was offered to me and the seller set the price. I much prefer a .44 or .45 caliber. Absolutely not. Best review Ive seen here in a LONG time. 6 gun makes fast double action follow-up shots feel natural. The announcement of the new production Colt Python in 2020 was a surprise for many firearms fans, as the famous snake gun had been out of production since 2005. Same comment for 1903s and A3s. Yes. But how many of those turds floating in swimming pools are actually just Baby Ruth chocolate bars? The problems were seen in guns either straight out of the box or having only been handled by Colt people (the SHOT show debacle). That would explain the extreme prices they are going for in the resale market. The Colt Officer Target pistols, especially in .22 and .32. The new Python carries a hefty $1499 price tag and they are just about impossible to find. 5 shot .45 Colt capable of safely launching the Ruger Only loads. A fella can still hope. Freaking EXCELLENT question. This process is described the same way, and even on the same page (19) in the manual, with the King Cobra and the Python. But those were the .357 Magnum loads and they printed, on average, 1.2 groups. Not saying theyll be inexpensive; the Python is definitely a premium wheelgun. To be fair, metallic cartridge revolvers predate practical semi-autos by almost half a century. Good story, but I still have the 4 Python I bought NIB in 1973, works good, lasts a long time. I taught her to shoot around 1965, though she could never hit anything with the .25 acp I bought her. Overall * * * * * Im increasingly puzzled why this crap is there. It isnt like blueing 4140 steel, where you just clean all oil off a polished gun, rinse off the de-greasing bath, and dunk it into the blueing salts for 20+ minutes. From the perspective of a former swimming pool operator, there are just so many things wrong with this part of the conversation. If the trend with the new generation of Pythons follows like the originals, the next barrel length should be 2 1/2. The blueing of stainless often requires you hit a narrow temperature range, sometimes you need to run the salt bath temp up and down through the range to get the blueing to start, then you need to sometimes agitate the salts a bit to keep them blueing the stainless, etc, etc. I followed your advice and did a search on Google. The stock Pythons front sight, in both barrel lengths, includes a red ramp front. In any barrel length, the tastefully done marks and the finish makes the Python stand out. Hoping they fix the thing. Capacity: 6 rds. Slightly gritty. The Python was given the expected Colt blue, with an even finer grade of polish as the last step, to produce the Royal Blue Colt finish. Oh and a competitor to the S&W M&P R8, including optic and WML rails (Ruger needs to get on that one too). Go back far enough and you can find damn near anything to support your argument. The .357 Magnum can be a painful handful in a lightweight, snub-nosed revolver. Description: COLT PYTHON 2020 PRODUCTION 6" SP6WTS .357 MAGNUM or 38 Special, Stainless Steel, Factory New in box, Serial # PY200XXX. Um The double-action revolver predates metallic cartridges. Weight: 42 oz. A very nice customer service person told me where my nearest Colt dealer was and said he could have one shipped there for me. It isnt until shooting the full pressure .357 Magnum loads that I can tell much of a difference between the recoil management of the 6 and 4.25 barrels. Groups are measured center to center with a metal ruler. When the hammer went fully forward and rested against the receiver, it wasnt pushing the transfer bar far enough and the firing pin was not extending far enough. pweserge, Im speaking practically. Of course, if I didnt like it, there would be plenty of other fan boys to sell the guns off to. You have entered an incorrect email address! Many folks think that Colt has lost the level of expertise and attention to detail necessary to produce that finish. Lyman oven makes around a 190 grain mold. I was going to buy another AR but the Colt seems more appropriate. The Pythons adjustable rear sight is very similar to the original. the only thing is cant find a new anywhere and double the price is crazy i think the 1499.00 price is right but try to find one its impossible and if they only made 2500 6 pythons thats a frigin joke its gonna be the same thing again you want a python its gonna be 3000 period which is a real bummer were not like the lucky ones who get to find these guns and test them colt needs to ramp up the production on these pythons which wont happen real bummer us average joe will never see one of these pythons jock. At no point during any of the shooting did I feel like I was slogging through rounds to check off boxes. Man, it was atrocious. Unequivocally yes. 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