And we all know that the opinion of the majority is the correct one, isnt it? Here is what correct PR is not about, from my perspective : About lying about events that did happened. If Tayler Tweed was diagnosed with Bipolar, then of course she would be good on programs and bad off them. No one is perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. Cmon open your bloggers eyes. And it is that which makes it unfair; not their desires to expose the abuses themselves. I am no expert at Public Relations, but I am no amateur, neither. Ill check that out too. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of plain stupidly from the anti-Scientology camp! Am I really suppose to believe that all the people who have spoken up just woke up one day and decided to try and fuck this church up for no reason? Bethel Baptist Church of Greeneville. The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. Certainly, if one is sick to begin with, then the HCOPL: Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble applies, specifically on this point : 3. Two years ago, we told you about Tayler Tweed, a 27-year-old Scientologist who had been working on a career in music and acting under the name Tayler DeBari before she killed herself at the home of some friends in Fullerton, California on January 10, 2014. Whereas the Aftermath program clearly had Facebook messages from Tayler asking for help, and of Cathy pushing Tayler away. But, lets just face the facts..it was awfully tempting to run with the Tayler story because one of her best Scientology friends was the daughter of Hollywoods own Alex Gibney. Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? Shes shining a light on some very horrific things. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. Mr. Tweed was born in Washington County and son of the late Eugene & Lena Ball Tweed. By the way, I found two videos that Cathy Tweed and a friend of hers uploaded to youtube a couple of years ago as a memorial to Tayler. {This aspect of Hubbard and Scn always irked me. Mrs. Pamela Devone Taylor Edwards age 52 of 1098 Teakwood Drive, Greenville, NC died Sunday February 26, 2023. Obituary SARAH AND AUGUSTUS TWEED WOODMANSEE February - 15, 1987 - June 11, 2015 Sarah Michelle Tweed Woodmansee,28, and her unborn son Augustus 'Gus' Tweed Woodmandsee, passed away at home surrounded by those who loved them most. This is what we need, being fair and balanced, and showing both sides of the coin while remaining compassionate to all sides. A&E's teaser for the upcoming episode shows a picture of my beautiful daughter." Nice try, Thetaclear. Thats what I call being able to see truth for what it is. He enjoyed throwing with Marshall High School Track and playing tuba in the band. Thats not what we were trained for. Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. The No.1 site across the UK for funeral notices, where you can search over 5,004,817 notices. With your response here, I really have a hard believing you know anything about suicide at all. Find an obituary, get service details, leave condolence messages or send flowers or gifts in memory of a loved one. This show wasnt about Kathy Tweed! Larry Hale. Attention whore and trying to look like the good guy. There is a lot of information that neither Tony Ortega, nor Rachel Bernstein, nor Leah Remini, nor Mike Rinder have given you. One is geared towards the discovery of truth, the other is entertainment. Grief Support Group Schedule . That, btw, is the key principle I believe Marty is standing up for. I dont have a specific with this particular case or episode, thats down to the people involved and those who felt they should have been more of an influence, or less of an influence with this story and tragedy. This phenomenon is WELL KNOWN on the medical and psychotherapeutic community. But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day.. Currently, Tyler Tweeds death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tyler Tweed Obituary and want to get a real update. You dont know me. Still, I had multiple prescriptions and two surgeries when I was in CofS. However, cause of death was not disclosed. Gross Tweed, Telford. Regular medical care is allowed though Hubbard did and members do tend to look down on traditional medical care. Getting rid of David Miscavige as Chairman of the Board and having to answer to the US government or lose their tax exemption is. All documentaries have a viewpoint. Taylors folks disconnected from her and threw her out.. That they were independent minds working independently of each other. Finally, someone has told the REAL story..the Church of Scientology did NOTHING to help this poor girlit cast her out. She went from a Where is Leah these days to a Leah Remini is an awesome badass. Here is what Dr. Breggin has to say about that : http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/interviews/breggin.html. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed would not second guess herself every single day? Uhmmm, makes me wonder.. And so it is a waste of time to harp on that if you really want to make scientology less dangerous. I get that you dont have much confidence in the tech (leave aside the church) but I do. Or you just like the anti-Scientology narrative? Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. Hear your loved one's obituary. I went in GREAT details EXACTLY quoting from the that episode all the parts where Leah, Mike, and Lauren BLAMED Cathy Tayler for the death of her daughter without showing one IOTA of proof beyond HEARSAY. From what i can see with my local org, the staff are hanging on to a purpose in the absence of KRC , Cant be done. Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. Thats why I left staff even though I continued being a Scientologist. I couldnt have said it any better, Statpush! I sincerely hope that you are not into law, because God help us if you are!!! Dont get me wrong, the medical field produces a lot of miracles and Im not down on them in general. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. The reason for this is because I am about to . Id like to know what some experienced tech people have to say on the subject. It all became a psychological bull shit of plain invalidations and case evaluations. C) Getting the person to move to a non stressful environment and to temporarily get away from hostile people and environments. Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by RightOn, Jan 20, 2014. I guess that we will have to continue this interesting discussion at another forum, or through email lines, , Well, TC, a compelling posting, indeed. What we used to do at my Mission/org was to do what we called an A to J Check based on the policy, Policies on Physical Healing, Insanity and Sources of Trouble. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? They just want them off their lines, so they can concentrate on the able.. Whether or not this is specific to sea org indoc, i dont know,, my experience has been with class 5 orgs as staff and public, tho the presence of advanced org staff has been more noticeable during the last period i was back on service 2005 -2010. Well, TC, a compelling posting, indeed. That must be the most fallacious argument that Ive ever heard! Ratings. As a struggling artist with mental illness, Tayler had relied on her parents for financial support, which she could no longer rely on. How could a mother, just three days after her daughter's death, state that she's "at peace" with it?? Well, try to go to Flag (the principal Scientology organization) for services and tell them that you are sick, and see what happens. In the other teaching (Rons too, I would say), Know is where intuition and wisdom lie. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). Cal., and both never mentioned by LA Times. Case in point, the DeCrescenzo lawsuit brought forced abortions to the forefront, the reaction from the church no more abortions (so Im told). I am just curious, I am not challenging you. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. I rest my case! I would rather err in trusting others than in thinking that they can not change. I cant get my comment posted because Im telling the truth about the sham that is Scientology. Its a cult with few members and lots of real estate, paying NO TAXES. Like SO MANY medical doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists BELIEVE today, there is such a thing called Psychosomatic Illnesses, which means illnesses brought about by the different kinds of mental stresses that an individual might be undergoing in his/her life. But from my point of view, it is up to US and not to them, to take the first step towards proper dialogue and peace talks. After a well fought battle with brain cancer, Sarah and Augustus made their journey to heaven on June 11, 2015. Theyre presenting one side, and especially in this case, doing it in a very exploitative and manipulative way. And that includes posting it again, a year later, for a licensed therapist to psycho-analyze you using that quote of yours that you told to Tony on the day of your daughters funeral. He died on Wednesday 14th December 2022 leaving behind family in mourning. (Dot) Dorothy passed away peacefully at The . But Im sure that for anyone who has buried their child, the day after is still the same day. Send flowers. Tayler Weldon DeBari November 13, 1986 -. Then, sooner or later, they might actually listen. This is about ending the abuses as Mike and Leah are trying to get us to believe. Dedicated to a wonderful person who left too soon. If they were, their approach in the show would be different, and they would be more careful with the facts and about not making generalizations out of a few instances and stereotyping the Scientologists in general. She states very clearly that she took her to the University of Oregon where she was examined by 10 different doctors. A memorial service will . I think the painting she made of Tayler is beautiful and I hope she gets a whole bunch of new business from the show. But now after going public about leaving the church, writing a book about it, and doing The Aftermath, suddenly she is all over the Media, being mentioned at almost every newspaper and magazine on the planet. Unlikely. And if the HE goes, then THEY would start acting sane. So we all must be at least a little bit paranoid. There really is nothing there TO reform. This is where the word cult shows some utility it can be used to designate a group which has morals that differ from the culture surrounding it. In my mind, at least the point about freedom of religion did relate to Cathy Tweed. 1 2022 , , : / - , Copyright 2015 2024 rojgarlive.com All Rights Reserved. How about the fact that she never refers to Tayler as her daughter!! Leah Remini is very aware of this, and is using it to her advantage, but in an irresponsible way, IMHO. Here is what ACTUALLY LRH said about medical doctors. They married three years later in 2013 and had two children-Luke Joseph Bass (8) and . Sorry; I got carried away. That is what a strawman is. Will they reform? And what does the actual record indicate with respect to what auditing can do for it? And totally based on the Tech as well. Or am I going too fast? How can he possibly know what is on their minds? But I cant help but wonder if she would stil be here if her family was willing to look beyond the blinders of their belief and get her some actual mental health treatment. Belief in aliens, and auditing, going clear and of course the extraterrestrial nonsense is ludicrous. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong? In recent times, Tyler Tweed's death was surfed by many individuals. But Lauren hadnt seen Taylor in 10 years. This was about her daughter and how she ( Kathy ) and Scientology failed Taylor! Unless your experience results in greater tolerance and compassion and wisdom for suicide survivors what good is it? In my opinion, the best way to handle this is not by trying to demonstrate who is stronger or more badass, which is the current narrative of BOTH, the church and the anti-Scientology movement. We are currently puzzled about how Tyler Tweed died. No, his narrative is about the punishment of DM and the destruction of the church as we know it. Nobody does. His posts at his blog dont mention ANYTHING about reformation, nor he uses a narrative leading to ask the church officials to please stop using the destructive policies, to come to senses regarding attacking the dissenters and critics, etc. He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. If we were to go and try to rescue those in the RPF or The Hole (if it even exist today, which I DOUBT it very much), they would probably say, What the fuck are you doing here? They either didnt fight back, or just willingly accepted what was happening to them. If the disability is pronounced to be curable within the skill of the physical practitioner and is in actual fact a disease or illness which surrenders to contemporary physical treatment, to require the person to be so treated before Scientology processing may be undertaken; (End of quote). Do you think the church really cares what treatment a Type III receives? But, if that condition did not resolve they would seek traditional medical treatment. What she went through is horrific. Taylor Eugene Bass went home to be with the Lord on February 23, 2023 at the age of 40. So how ironic it is that I refused to go to a doctor when the ch-rch insisted that I go. He was born Jan. 29, 1933, in rural Sand Creek to Ole and Nellie (Fjelstad) Tweed. Of course, we were mostly trying to avoid future lawsuits and PR flaps. Most debris that were blocking the streets have already been taken care of, and the biggest damage is from 50-75% of the island without electrical power, and cell phones and internet signals either inactive or very poor. I will look into this in every detail of it to connect a few dots, and to fill the vacuum of lack of enough information with facts instead of assumptions. Leahs career before The Aftermath was practically non-existent. Because they learned tha often more effective than medical treatment. Mr. Tweed was born in Greeneville, TN and son of James W. "Buddy" & Nora O. Let me enlighten you here, a little about how those answers look like. She shared over 62 loving years of marriage with husband John L . Date of Death or Service May 31, 2023 Theresa Anna Helberg . VETERAN Obituary H.L. Hell, I just got booted out of a Facebook group for being a little too conciliatory Scn theory-wise. I do feel, from being a member for 30 years, that my compassion and humanity was eroded.. Pseudoscientists in Scientology? And her brother can shut his mouth. I witnessed how badly and uncompassionate their originations as to feeling overrun were handled by uncaring Course sups. He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, WI to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. Im pretty sure this tactic of trying to put you in Cathy Tweeds shoes is not getting through to you. Janice Ann Taylor, 79, of Bowmansville, passed away on Saturday, February 25, 2023, in her home surrounded by her loving family. Would Scientology allow someone to be on Bipolar medication which is usually quite heavy? It is called, POLICIES ON PHYSICAL HEALING, INSANITY AND SOURCES OF TROUBLE written on 27 Oct 1964 : Any process labeled healing, old or new, refers to healing by mental and spiritual means and should therefore be looked upon as the relief of difficulties arising from mental and spiritual causes., The proper procedure in being requested to heal some complained-of physical disability is as follows:, 1. 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